Comments on: From Delhi to Chennai – Are There Two Indias? http://www.planetd.org/2006/11/27/from-delhi-to-chennai-are-there-two-indias/ Critiquing the Politics, Policy & Practice of Development Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:56:50 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Stephen http://www.planetd.org/2006/11/27/from-delhi-to-chennai-are-there-two-indias/comment-page-1/#comment-122284 Stephen Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:08:16 +0000 http://www.planetd.org/2006/11/27/from-delhi-to-chennai-are-there-two-indias/#comment-122284 Hindi is not supposed to imposed in southern part of india. It's a better language; those who are intersted can learn Hindi. many individuals from north india have settled in souther part of india. They too speak tamil. it's basically people's interst and should not be a rule. Thanks. Hindi is not supposed to imposed in southern part of india. It’s a better language; those who are intersted can learn Hindi. many individuals from north india have settled in souther part of india. They too speak tamil. it’s basically people’s interst and should not be a rule.

Thanks.

]]> By: Roop Singh http://www.planetd.org/2006/11/27/from-delhi-to-chennai-are-there-two-indias/comment-page-1/#comment-105606 Roop Singh Sat, 19 Jan 2008 03:16:43 +0000 http://www.planetd.org/2006/11/27/from-delhi-to-chennai-are-there-two-indias/#comment-105606 I agree that Hindi is not "one-size fits all solution" in India. The CBSE and ICSE school language policy in absolutely questionable. They are responsible for downfall in usage of even many north Indian languages. English is the practically the only language which unite all regions of the country. Roop Singh I agree that Hindi is not “one-size fits all solution” in India. The CBSE and ICSE school language policy in absolutely questionable. They are responsible for downfall in usage of even many north Indian languages. English is the practically the only language which unite all regions of the country.

Roop Singh

]]> By: Suresh John http://www.planetd.org/2006/11/27/from-delhi-to-chennai-are-there-two-indias/comment-page-1/#comment-105604 Suresh John Sat, 19 Jan 2008 03:08:13 +0000 http://www.planetd.org/2006/11/27/from-delhi-to-chennai-are-there-two-indias/#comment-105604 The main culprits behind Hindi imposition is the schools. Students and parents of South Indians schools face insult if someone does not do well in foreign of foregn langugae Hindi imposed down the throat for 4 - 10 years of schooling. Go to any school in Bangalore..Hindi imposition is a must... THe Hindi baggage has to be taken atleast as 3rd langugae. SOme international schools start the imposition right from LKG. Of all language , person knowing Hindi need not and will learn any other language. Which is why when they come to Tamil Nadu they are easily recognized and branded as "Hindikkaaran". In Karnataka unfortunately they will rule without knowing Kannada but suddenly someone speaking Hindi in Bangalore gets murdered for the silliest reason citing "insult to Kannada". (the retention by elite media is not more than 2 days with these kind of news) The current 3 language system in schools which gives unfair advantage to Hindi speakers in terms of reduced syllabus and ranking must be scrapped and schools should be made grammar schools with emphasis on English and technical subjects. The other perputuators of this Hindi favoutism are the so-called service organizations - Banks, Airlines, Gas. They announce/print form in 2 languages. Oh yes ICICI is known to have a Russian website...but Tamil was to inferior to have a website....and these banks are making big talk of Hi technology and rural service... The language policy of (H)India which favours only Hindi in name of "nationalized" language at cost of downfall of other languages ill be significant contributor other being the "nationalized" caste "OBC" will contribute to total disunity of India. The main culprits behind Hindi imposition is the schools. Students and parents of South Indians schools face insult if someone does not do well in foreign of foregn langugae Hindi imposed down the throat for 4 – 10 years of schooling.

Go to any school in Bangalore..Hindi imposition is a must… THe Hindi baggage has to be taken atleast as 3rd langugae. SOme international schools start the imposition right from LKG.

Of all language , person knowing Hindi need not and will learn any other language. Which is why when they come to Tamil Nadu they are easily recognized and branded as “Hindikkaaran”. In Karnataka unfortunately they will rule without knowing Kannada but suddenly someone speaking Hindi in Bangalore gets murdered for the silliest reason citing “insult to Kannada”. (the retention by elite media is not more than 2 days with these kind of news)

The current 3 language system in schools which gives unfair advantage to Hindi speakers in terms of reduced syllabus and ranking must be scrapped and schools should be made grammar schools with emphasis on English and technical subjects.

The other perputuators of this Hindi favoutism are the so-called service organizations – Banks, Airlines, Gas. They announce/print form in 2 languages. Oh yes ICICI is known to have a Russian website…but Tamil was to inferior to have a website….and these banks are making big talk of Hi technology and rural service…

The language policy of (H)India which favours only Hindi in name of “nationalized” language at cost of downfall of other languages ill be significant contributor other being the “nationalized” caste “OBC” will contribute to total disunity of India.

]]> By: s http://www.planetd.org/2006/11/27/from-delhi-to-chennai-are-there-two-indias/comment-page-1/#comment-102909 s Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:53:28 +0000 http://www.planetd.org/2006/11/27/from-delhi-to-chennai-are-there-two-indias/#comment-102909 The best part of india, is that various languages, cultures and religions co exist peacefully.This is what makes india so beautiful.Why impose hindi on all.Let people from Southern states speak their local languages and the people from north speak gujarati, punjabi and bengali.This makes india culturally rich and Vibrant.Stop imposing hindi on the southeners. It's high Time the north indians learned the local languages when they are down south and vice versa. The best part of india, is that various languages, cultures and religions co exist peacefully.This is what makes india so beautiful.Why impose hindi on all.Let people from Southern states speak their local languages and the people from north speak gujarati, punjabi and bengali.This makes india culturally rich and Vibrant.Stop imposing hindi on the southeners. It’s high Time the north indians learned the local languages when they are down south and vice versa.

]]> By: Prakash http://www.planetd.org/2006/11/27/from-delhi-to-chennai-are-there-two-indias/comment-page-1/#comment-101768 Prakash Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:07:46 +0000 http://www.planetd.org/2006/11/27/from-delhi-to-chennai-are-there-two-indias/#comment-101768 Nice post. India is beautiful with its multiple color. Imagine, every one around you looks and talks like you. Life won't be interesting. So I am against any sort of Imposition. Hindi included. If some body wants to learn Hindi, he will. If some body wants to learn Kannada, he will. Politicians, just have to take their arm off of people's interest unless harmful to others. Nice post. India is beautiful with its multiple color. Imagine, every one around you looks and talks like you. Life won’t be interesting. So I am against any sort of Imposition. Hindi included. If some body wants to learn Hindi, he will. If some body wants to learn Kannada, he will. Politicians, just have to take their arm off of people’s interest unless harmful to others.

]]> By: vijay http://www.planetd.org/2006/11/27/from-delhi-to-chennai-are-there-two-indias/comment-page-1/#comment-41384 vijay Thu, 14 Dec 2006 04:21:04 +0000 http://www.planetd.org/2006/11/27/from-delhi-to-chennai-are-there-two-indias/#comment-41384 [i]Even Karunanidi is talking to people to learning Hindi.[/i] he he he, you seem to completely out of touch with reality. Read these... TN chamber of commerce and industry opposes Hindi: Feb 08, 2006 http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2006/02/09/stories/2006020902541900.htm MDMK opposes Hindi "The party will not allow any move to impose Hindi on Tamils in any manner." http://www.hindu.com/2004/10/30/stories/2004103009840400.htm Jayalalitha against Hindi: In a demi-official letter, she said, "It is with great pain and anguish that I wish to bring to your notice the recent practice resorted to by the National Highways Authority of India of inscribing place names in Hindi on the kilometre stones on the NH being laid in Tamil Nadu." http://www.hinduonnet.com/2004/12/22/stories/2004122210530100.htm DMK, AIADMK, MDMK The Lok Sabha was adjourned for 15 minutes today during question hour as a bitter debate triggered off between members from Tamil Nadu and those from the Hindi-speaking belt on whether the milestones on the National Highway should show the distance in Hindi in the non-Hindi-speaking states. http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030306/nation.htm#3 As you can see, all the major parties in TN - DMK, AIADMK, MDMK oppose hindi imposition in any form. I dont see a reason why the Tamils have to learn hindi in Tamil Nadu - let the northerner who comes to TN learn Tamil or pack his bags to north. [i]Even Karunanidi is talking to people to learning Hindi.[/i]

he he he, you seem to completely out of touch with reality.

Read these…
TN chamber of commerce and industry opposes Hindi: Feb 08, 2006
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2006/02/09/stories/2006020902541900.htm

MDMK opposes Hindi
“The party will not allow any move to impose Hindi on Tamils in any manner.”
http://www.hindu.com/2004/10/30/stories/2004103009840400.htm

Jayalalitha against Hindi:
In a demi-official letter, she said, “It is with great pain and anguish that I wish to bring to your notice the recent practice resorted to by the National Highways Authority of India of inscribing place names in Hindi on the kilometre stones on the NH being laid in Tamil Nadu.”
http://www.hinduonnet.com/2004/12/22/stories/2004122210530100.htm

DMK, AIADMK, MDMK
The Lok Sabha was adjourned for 15 minutes today during question hour as a bitter debate triggered off between members from Tamil Nadu and those from the Hindi-speaking belt on whether the milestones on the National Highway should show the distance in Hindi in the non-Hindi-speaking states.
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030306/nation.htm#3

As you can see, all the major parties in TN – DMK, AIADMK, MDMK oppose hindi imposition in any form.

I dont see a reason why the Tamils have to learn hindi in Tamil Nadu – let the northerner who comes to TN learn Tamil or pack his bags to north.

]]> By: Dweep Chanana http://www.planetd.org/2006/11/27/from-delhi-to-chennai-are-there-two-indias/comment-page-1/#comment-41351 Dweep Chanana Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:35:24 +0000 http://www.planetd.org/2006/11/27/from-delhi-to-chennai-are-there-two-indias/#comment-41351 ninena, Thanks for your comment. You're right that external exchange has a big impact on our ability to adapt. And contrary to your assertion, nowhere do I state that I'd like to see a single Indian culture. Quite the contrary. I'm simply in favor of cherrypicking what we can learn from other influences - both internal and external... I admire the South's ability and readiness to learn Hindi. I cannot say the same about North indians that live in the South for years, and learn not a word of the local tongue. That I feel, reflects the openness of the South to others, while being able to retain their identity. And the arrogance of the North. In international circles, we call the French arrogant and naive for refusing to speak English. So, how are the 'northerners' in India, any different? Finally, I flew out of my nest several years ago, and have lived outside India for the past 5 years, in 3 countries. So when I start speaking, a westerner usually doesn't know where I am from. But nice try :) ninena,
Thanks for your comment. You’re right that external exchange has a big impact on our ability to adapt. And contrary to your assertion, nowhere do I state that I’d like to see a single Indian culture. Quite the contrary. I’m simply in favor of cherrypicking what we can learn from other influences – both internal and external…

I admire the South’s ability and readiness to learn Hindi. I cannot say the same about North indians that live in the South for years, and learn not a word of the local tongue. That I feel, reflects the openness of the South to others, while being able to retain their identity. And the arrogance of the North. In international circles, we call the French arrogant and naive for refusing to speak English. So, how are the ‘northerners’ in India, any different?

Finally, I flew out of my nest several years ago, and have lived outside India for the past 5 years, in 3 countries. So when I start speaking, a westerner usually doesn’t know where I am from. But nice try :)

]]> By: ninena http://www.planetd.org/2006/11/27/from-delhi-to-chennai-are-there-two-indias/comment-page-1/#comment-41350 ninena Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:11:54 +0000 http://www.planetd.org/2006/11/27/from-delhi-to-chennai-are-there-two-indias/#comment-41350 In my opinion, culture is directly related to the information or the exposure a society has to the outside world. Mogul invasion and the western conquest had helped in many ways to this culture in particular to the north western states. In my opinion southerners have little exposure to the outside world due to geographical nature of the Indian when compared to some of the northern states. I think it is changing in a big way. After the IT boom and opening up the economy, I see more exposure for the southerners than the other states. Further if you look at the current and projected census the literacy is higher and population density is lower in the southern states than the north states. If you look at Tamil Nadu, it is the third largest economy in India after Gujarat and Maharastra. Just Bangalor IT turnover is triples the sum when compared to rest of India IT industry in total. If you had come to south, way back in 60 ies, you would be shocked to see the chance when compared to now. Even Karunanidi is talking to people to learning Hindi. I guess prosperity and time has changed people and will continue to change them. I understand your desperation to see the India in one color and wish that everyone in India speak, talk the same language and practice the same life style. Ooo.. by the by… Did you just fly out from your nest? Do you know what a westerner think about you when you start speaking? Desi!! In my opinion, culture is directly related to the information or the exposure a society has to the outside world. Mogul invasion and the western conquest had helped in many ways to this culture in particular to the north western states. In my opinion southerners have little exposure to the outside world due to geographical nature of the Indian when compared to some of the northern states. I think it is changing in a big way. After the IT boom and opening up the economy, I see more exposure for the southerners than the other states. Further if you look at the current and projected census the literacy is higher and population density is lower in the southern states than the north states. If you look at Tamil Nadu, it is the third largest economy in India after Gujarat and Maharastra. Just Bangalor IT turnover is triples the sum when compared to rest of India IT industry in total. If you had come to south, way back in 60 ies, you would be shocked to see the chance when compared to now. Even Karunanidi is talking to people to learning Hindi. I guess prosperity and time has changed people and will continue to change them. I understand your desperation to see the India in one color and wish that everyone in India speak, talk the same language and practice the same life style. Ooo.. by the by… Did you just fly out from your nest? Do you know what a westerner think about you when you start speaking? Desi!!

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